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Women Don't Lie - Men Don't Listen
Success Coach - Doc Love

Hello Doc,

Early this month I had a date of which I really don't know what to think. This girl, Renee, had been giving me very strong buying signals, so I got her number. Eight days later I called, asked her out for Saturday (weekdays were unavailable to me), and she responded enthusiastically, and even laid bare her schedule that day! (Most girls give me evasive doublespeak.)

She offered an evening date, but I set up a time for early afternoon instead. She showed up with Prussian precision to a convenient meeting place, and we had a fun chat. My dad told me, "The less said the better," so I kept the conversation on fun topics such as things that would interest us both. She seemed smart, fun, and good-natured, as well as pretty.

Afterwards, we went to see a performance at the music school nearby. That's when things got weird. After we sat down, Renee got a girlfriend of hers to join us, and she basically tuned me out. I acted as if I didn't care what she did and kept my attention on the performance. At the reception, she continued to ignore me and to joke around with her girlfriend. They both were even talking and flirting with other guys!

I served myself some refreshments and talked to other people, even though this was really bothering me. When I was ready to go, I told her I was going we teased each other a bit, and then I gave her a hug and then left.

I figured she must have low Interest Level and was a Professional Dater, even though the date cost me zilch. I can't imagine that a girl would have high Interest Level in a guy and do what she did. On the other hand, a week later, I bumped into her girlfriend and another guy from her class and kidded around with the girlfriend. As I left, the guy kind of grumbled at me, "Renee says hi." I'm guessing this would suggest high Interest Level.

I wouldn't expect a girl to get a guy to tell me hello for her if she wasn't interested in me! This was at the end of the last semester, and now it's Spring break. I don't know if I should dump her. On the other hand, a little voice in my head was going, "This is a test." What do you think?

Wayne -- who wants to know if he's being tested

Hi, Wayne,

Ok. Let's go over this. When you first asked this girl out you should have made it for Sunday rather than Saturday. In a woman's mind, there is a huge difference between those two days. Saturday is the day that you reserve for your number one gal, either your girlfriend or the girl who's got the top position in your roster. Women know that. So when you're first getting to know a girl and you ask her out for a Saturday, you are letting her know that you've got no other prospects. Not good. This is something you'll want to handle properly with the next woman.

You also should have told her that you would pick her up at her home for the date rather than meeting her. If she had insisted that you meet her somewhere and didn't want you to come to her home, then you could have screened her out immediately, before this wild goose chase ever got started. To you psych majors, girls with low Interest Level don't want you to know where they live.

By the way, you're lucky to have a dad who knows at least a thing or two about women. I like what he told you about "The less said the better." It's a rare father who actually passes on any meaningful wisdom to his son about women.

Now, even though this girl exhibited some initial strong buying signals, she disqualified herself as a candidate for "Girlfriend of Wayne" when she pulled that little stunt with her gal pal and then started flirting with other guys. The audacity! She about as classy and courteous as a bouncer at a biker bar.

There are a few different ways you could have handled the situation, Wayne. One option would have been to follow the philosophy that says: once your date starts disrespecting you (and rubbing it in your face as Renee did), you leave. Over and out. You could have simply said, (facetiously) "Thanks for the fun date," and then exited and left her there baffled and bewildered. To have done that would have been entirely appropriate.

Or, option two: right then and there you could have started talking to her girlfriend and dominating the conversation, all the while ONLY talking to her girlfriend and ignoring her. That would also have sent a strong message.

Option three: once she started running her number, you could have immediately started hustling other women and gotten their phone numbers whilst skillfully positioning yourself so that Renee saw you.

Unfortunately, after she pulled all this crap, you gave her a hug, which sanctioned her rude behavior. " Dis me, and you'll get a hug" was the message you gave her.

All right, let's tie it all up here. I agree with you. Women test men, constantly and relentlessly. But when that guy, a third party, told you that "Renee" says hi", that meant . zip. As Judge Judy would tell you, "It's hearsay." We don't know if that guy was telling the truth or not. We don't know if your date really said that or not. But even if she did, it's no basis for pursuing further contact with her. She's OUT, forever, and "Good riddance I say."

So, Wayne, here's your report card for your recent field trip assignment in Doc Love's Training School. You did great when you waited eight days to call this gal. You were right on the money when you kept the conversation light and positive. But when she threw a curve ball at you, you lost your focus. That's ok. You're still learning "The System" and I don't expect you to have figured this all out in the heat of battle. Continue studying and keep in mind that each one is practice for the next one, until you find THE ONE.

Remember, guys: if a girl doesn't treat you right on a first date, there's no reason to have a second date with her.

To send me your love questions or to find out more about The "System," visit me at or call (800)  404-2644.

Doc Love is a talk show host and entertainment speaker who coaches men in his seminars. For the past 30 years he has asked thousands of women, "Why do you stay with one man versus another?"

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